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I wouldn't waste the money on a name and that ugly green! they don't make them like they use to! take 4 grand off the 17 and buy a Massey Fergusen and never worry about having to gouge into your wallet for repairs! they are Brutes compared to the Deere's Cheaper parts, thats why they stay in business, they have to supply everyone they sold there half torqued tractors with parts to repair them and they are very expensive parts and cheaply made so the profit margin is much higher! Find a Moline or Massey and get away from the childs tractor, you won't regret the money you saved! that 17Grand is just paying for a Name! Like Rebock Tennis Shoes were great! now that they have american plants they are uncomfortable and there stocks dropped and people still buy them for the original name they have earned from the past when they made a real Tennis Shoe with cushioned Arch supports.

Doug B.
Get into Life, Buy a real tractor! buy a Massey....
JD is green because they take your green to maintain them!

Kubota Number 1 in Compact Tractor SALES
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Replies 87 Post by Doug B.

I just put 6500. down for a 1428v and decided I wanted more power for a possible future front end loader so I called the dealer that sells Massey and Cub Cadets and told him I wanted to know the difference in price between the 1428v and the 1433 and it was only 2 grand, So I told him to change my order to the larger 30HP also because of the Selective Control Valve (SCV) comes standerd on the 1433, So it is worth every penny of the 13,500.00 price tag considering I'm 42 and it will probably out live me like most Massey Fergusons and Molline's do! I don't beleive in the Deer, they are over rated but affordable, but personally Massey is a Brute compared to a Deere, but thats my opinion over the years being raised on 55 acres of corn and plowing the fields and planting strawberry's every year in Battle Creek MI.
You Buy a Massey you will never regret it!
It's ashame they don't have there own solo dealership instead of using other lawn tractor dealers to carry there line, they have a lot of people invested in there stock, I think it would be wise to open independant stores to show people the difference in machanic's compared to the Deere To me the Cast Iron and Bysmuth Ore Crank Shaft will never wear only the piston sleeves, a Deere will need a Crank Shaft replacment when its time to rebuild the motor, So thats why I say Massey is a Brute, made solid as a rock and you just can't beat them for the price. But when everyone hears John Deere they automatically set there minds with its a well heard of name and must be a kick but tractor when infact they make cheaper parts than Massey does but Massey's hardly ever need replaced, but the cost for the parts are much more than the Deere, But you are investing more into the Name and that color GREEN! The old saine holds true to John Deere Tractors, They don't make them like they use to! but where can I get that reliable Massey that they use to make! well they still make them with state of the art metals and equipment that seldom needs maintanence other than frequent Oil changes etc.

Doug B.

I will let you know how the front end loader works on mulching our 500' driveway and moving gravel.

MF 1455V 4WD
Massey Ferguson Tractors
Replies 7 Post by Doug B.

Mike, thanks for the insight. I realize what you are saying. I doubt seriously if I will ever use this tractor for more than mowing. I will never use the 70hp available. I am just so tired of the vibration,noise and underpower I seem to experience with most air cooled engines.
The project is well under way. The subaru engine is now being modified. I have developed a way to make the one inch shafts for the Lovejoy connector to the pump and for the PTO. It looks like I will need to raise the pump up off the platform to align with the center of crank on the Subaru. The biggest problem I see now is the exhaust. They exit the heads right about where the tires are. Ill figure out something! The Subaru engine was from and 86 car with tons of pollution devices that need to be blocked and plugged so that is taking lots of time also. I plan on pulling the Briggs in a couple of days and doing the first "fit check".
I did consider a new Briggs 18hp engine before starting this project. It would have cost about $1000.00. This project so far has cost about $75.00. Of course I am not counting labor, Im cheap!!

OLD Steiner Tractor
Articulated Tractors
Replies 6 Post by Doug B.